Lidl Remote control sockets
27 October, 2011 - 13:16
Just for information, looks like Lidl will have their remote control sockets in from 3rd November at £16.99 for a pack of 4.
1 November, 2011 - 17:23
#2
i'm sure they can made to be.
if the rf protocol is different i'm sure they can be made to work as the rf sub-system has no restrictions about what it can control, once the protocol has been reverse engineered that is.
brett
3 November, 2011 - 18:38
#3
Did you buy
? anyone got some if so do you know the codes?.. never done RF stuff going to play tommorrow. Dean
4 November, 2011 - 11:40
#4
Lidl RF Sockets
Have you had any success with these?
Karl
4 November, 2011 - 12:07
#5
No
Not even sure my rf is working as i cannot get some old status ones to work :(
anyone pint me to the assembly instructions for the rf board connection stuff, i know it has to have an additional 15v line (has that) but it does not seem to "plug in very well".
codes i am trying, status and lidl as follows are they correct?
status on/off 01012C03770377012CB956BF00 01012C03770377012CB956B700
lidl 01020320028A05DC028A05DC0514032004B00C029C4015CB1555861B00
01020320028A05DC028A05DC0514032004B00C029C4015CB1555855840
first dive into rf :) (on the HAH)
4 November, 2011 - 12:20
#6
Just Got a Set
I'll see if I can work out the codes, it would be interesting to get the dimmer sockets working.
Karl
4 November, 2011 - 12:21
#7
Do tell as the complete version
What build and AVR version are you running ? These should report on the web page.
Brett
4 November, 2011 - 12:37
#8
Check the voltage on the RF module
Might be a good idea to check that 12V is getting to the RF module. If you have a multimeter to hand, measure the voltage on the RF module itself (the silk screen legend will show you which two pins are Gnd and power).
Derek.
4 November, 2011 - 13:11
#9
289/2.4
Build: 289/2.4
Fri Nov 04 13:08:57 UTC 2011
up 1:54, load average: 0.29, 0.15, 0.
AVR?
4 November, 2011 - 15:03
#10
12v present
12v present.
heres a photo of the label on a lidl one.
http://www.packetradio.co.uk/gallery/index.php/HAH/lidlrfsocket
think i may need to change the "code for the status as shouldnt it burst 12 times?"
4 November, 2011 - 16:34
#11
Signal
Here's a first grab of the signal, this is for A-ON, you need to look at channel 7 :-
So apart from Brett and Derek, who's going to be the first to decode it?
4 November, 2011 - 17:39
#12
try these
Dean, Try these to test your RF.. this is pair of LIDL codes that work for me on the newest verion of the firmware. (old lild sockets not the new type discussed in this thread)
on 01020320028A05DC028A05DC0514032004B00C029C4015CB1555561600
off 01020320028A05DC028A05DC0514032004B00C029C4015CB1555555540
thanks
Garry.
ps I have more if you need them
4 November, 2011 - 17:39
#13
Nice grab
This is a good. However, the first thing to grab is a trace that shows more than one RF 'burst'.
If you capture a few and can measure the time between one burst finishing & the next one starting, we have the first data point that we need.
Next, zoom in a bit and capture just one 'burst' on a single screen. This will allow the overall shape of the RF burst to be inspected.
Then zoom right in and measure (accurately) the times for the 'long hi, short low' and the 'short hi, long low' pulses.
Then, we have the datapoints that we need. Be prepared to find different pulse times at the beginning and the end of the 'burst' - many RF protocols have these.
Derek.
4 November, 2011 - 17:51
#14
Progress
I'm actually doing all that now, there are a lot of measurements to take :-( Getting there slowly,
Karl
4 November, 2011 - 17:54
#15
As Derek says..
Would be good to see the pulse repeat to get interburst timings and also confirm we have seen the whole string, however, based on the image it looks to me like a rather simple 1bit per frame, 24frame pulse.
should be relatively easyto decode. ?!?!
Thanks
Garry
5 November, 2011 - 11:21
#16
Update
The screen grab was a zoom of the whole capture. The capture was of 13 bursts, but doesn't that depend on how long I hold the button down for?
A burst lasts for 39.65ms, with a gap of 7.1ms. I'm just measuring the patterns, but I might be doing a bit of overkill; I'm measuring the time for each high and low individually. Should I be measuring from the start of the high to the end of the low as one measurement?
I'll post what I've got later, I just need to type them up now.
Lidl A-ON.txt contains the state, high or low, the length of time the signal is in that state, and the measurement unit for the length of time. Hope this helps. If someone wants to describe the process for to convert the capture to actual codes for the HAH please do and I'll crack on with the rest.
| Attachment | Size |
|---|---|
| Lidl A-On.txt | 752 bytes |
5 November, 2011 - 12:31
#17
dobt it
I have the new Lidl sockets.
do you have codes for status sockets from asda?
5 November, 2011 - 13:27
#19
Hmm
Yes tried those codes but am not sure about string make up as the burstcount of 12 can be reduced and i am not sure if it is in example given.
all very confusing. sure a lightbulb will come on in my head at some piont soon hopefully
hopefully someone has the fully packed string to hand?
Dean
5 November, 2011 - 16:52
#20
Progress
Well, this is totally new to me, I've managed to find out that there are 5 different patterns for each button, so each time I press A - ON, it sends pattern 1, the next time I press it it sends pattern 2 etc once it gets to 5 it starts again with pattern 1. I think this might be for the dimmer function, each press cycles another stage on the dimmer socket. We could even do this with a little script :-)
I've decoded one of the patterns, but it doesn't work, so I can't have done it properly I guess. I'm not sure about the long ON bit at the end either.
Anyone any ideas?
Karl
5 November, 2011 - 16:19
#21
Lidl RF Cracked
Try this :-
A-ON = 0101020D03E803E8020D10011B5818D2C940
A-OFF = 0101020D03E803E8020D10011B5818DCB090
5 November, 2011 - 16:54
#23
Sort of working
Have to do it several times for it to switch, how do i increase the number of data bursts?
5 November, 2011 - 16:58
#24
Data Bursts
Look for the 20D10 and change the 10 at the end, this is a hex digit, so the number of data bursts is currently 16. Let us know what works, it might be a timimg issue or something else.
5 November, 2011 - 17:07
#25
Thanks will have a play when
wife is not trying to read under light wheilst i keep turning it on and off :)
what digits do we change to get the other sockets working.
5 November, 2011 - 17:10
#26
Full RF Control List
A-ON = 0101020D03E803E8020D10011B5818D2C940
A-OFF = 0101020D03E803E8020D10011B5818DCB090
B-ON = 0101020D03E803E8020D10011B5818D94874
B-OFF = 0101020D03E803E8020D10011B5818DD34A4
C-ON = 0101020D03E803E8020D10011B5818D65D3C
C-OFF = 0101020D03E803E8020D10011B5818D7EF1C
D-ON = 0101020D03E803E8020D10011B5818D7EF12
D-OFF = 0101020D03E803E8020D10011B5818D65D32
It's probably also worth mentioning that these units also remember their code if unplugged and plugged back in again.
6 November, 2011 - 10:06
#28
The Remote
Do you have the same problem with the supplied remote?
Just a word of caution...
The ones on the lidl site for this week, 3rd Nov 2011, don't look the same as the Lidl ones that Derek stocks in the shop. You cannot be certain these will work
kevint