Release 300
20 December, 2011 - 21:04
This embeds xAPFlash into the HAH and onto its web gui.
The configuration file, just like you have on your joggler is loaded from /etc/www
The flash default files are stored in /usr/share/flash and are accessible directly using the /flash alias on your browser. So for example http://a.b.c.d/flash/xAPFlash.swf will load the SWF application by-passing the HAH wrappers for direct access.
The URI /live maps to the filesystem location /etc/www this is where you can put your custom configuration and additional graphics assets. This maps to the URI http://a.b.c.d/live/
On the Admin/Webserver page you can default the startup page to HTML or FLASH.
This is very prelim but I hope you guys can figure it out.
Brett
20 December, 2011 - 22:12
#2
more toys
oops forgot the password on the iserver - works great now AND on my phone using dyndns - so I guess I don't mind about
the other thread now. Thanks brett
Kim
21 December, 2011 - 01:19
#4
Sterling work again Brett, have a cold one.
Yep its working nicely. I have xAPFlash.swf both in the GUI & on its own link. /live/xAPFlash.swf
Looks quite Beautiful! OK I need to customise the xml but its there.
Did have to bash pachube into submission again restart & reconfigure currentcost, pachube & iServer. That have may have been because I filled www directory or the upgrade. Either way a very small price to pay.
Now though you have opened a Pandoras box, I have /etc/www or /live as we call it here. I can pop html pages there so I can extend it with even my basic HTML skills. So if I mount an EXT3 usb flash disk with an /etc/www directory and as the hahhub boots check for that then link to that not the internal drive? That saves precious space
Can I have a link on the GUI to /live/index.html?
Now because it isn't compiled in Klone we can't use C, could we use lua or php in our own web pages?
21 December, 2011 - 08:59
#5
Problems encountered-and soloutions
UID on my system is different from default in config so in xapconfig added unit id to overwrite/overrule, also had some "extra button IMAGES" this caused xap to throw a right hissy fit until i put them on the hah (made them as small as possible)
Dean
21 December, 2011 - 09:48
#6
Re: Not sure why you would do that
Hi Brett
Yeah it's called sloppy typing - I meant xapconfig.xml not xapflash.swf. Which is why I am rubbish as a programmer.
Just to show we play with your demos - when you go to the config page and keep clicking the second configure "button" the green comes
and goes in a strange pattern - sometimes with the ++ symbol and sometimes without. Totally minor point I know.
Reconfiguring the screen is fun - using xml notepad 2007 to help me keep the xml right
Kim
21 December, 2011 - 19:08
#8
So what you are saying is......
With all the USB devices being added onto the HAH.
So far i have a current cost but nothing else, what i do have is a 7110 mobile with lead a jeenode usb and now a usb stick that could get added.
so may i suggest we all put on our Xmass lists a usb powered hub, with all the recent progress a 20port one may be an idea :)
21 December, 2011 - 19:21
#9
Thanks Brett
Thats great, thanks.
Will look forward to that. 300 though is a really nice release, I'm just being greedy.
I thought earlier in the week wouldn't to be nice if xAPflash were served off the HAH (I even played with Klone trying to figure out how) and you had already started on it.
Would be nice if we could get some error messages when we are struggling, maybe a button that shows the relevant message / pre requisites on the web interface for xAPflash, Pachube and Currentcost
Say on Pachube show the last posted message to Pachube.
xAPflash last sent xap to /from the client. So we can see if the
Currentcost last data received via serial?
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I'm guessing that this could all be ported to other platforms maybe the Raspberry pi or similar? Just for when the Liveboxes run out?
22 December, 2011 - 11:03
#11
more questions
Hi Brett,
1) Is there any way to control the "polling" rate? I have been watching xfx message viewer. Using a cut down version of your demo with
just RF 1, 2, Relay 1,2, cc temp and power. Runnning two versions of iserver - one on the pc one on the phone
Sometimes either one of them seems to go into oscillation - constantly sending messages with the body "request {button = sensor1}"
and then "request {button = 0} - at a rate of about 200/min. Other times the two messages are sent once a minute - in line
with a hearbeat message. Or is this a "feature" to make buttons more responsive just after they have been pressed?
2) On another subject I am trying to get pachube to show a graph of when the xmas tree lights are on (sad I know). I saw in a previous
message that you had arranged for the on/off to be translated to 1/0 but still can't get it to work.
I am copying entries for others that work fine so.
ID TAG Tag XAP Source xAP Class xAP Section key
2 temp2 dbzoo.livebox.Controller:1wire.1 xAPBSC.event input.state text which works
is copied as
5 xmas lights dbzoo.livebox.Controller:rf.1 xAPBSC.event output.state text which doesn't
have also tried input.state instead of output.stat
Any ideas?
Kim
22 December, 2011 - 11:19
#12
Think we have the same issue
Think we have the same issue see http://www.homeautomationhub.com/content/not-sure-if-scripting-or-not
Hopefully one will answer the other so if you find answer please post:-
for info my feed is here:-
22 December, 2011 - 11:27
#13
oscillation
I also found a lot of requests went on if i had buttons on joggler that were not in existance (or configured ) on HAH so in effect it was querying a non existant button that it thought existed if that makes sense?
22 December, 2011 - 12:54
#14
Wrong entry in pachube settings
Kim You want the last box to be state not text. This works for me. Garry
22 December, 2011 - 17:49
#15
Re Wrong entry in pachube settings
Thanks Garry - it now works. I have been playing with this on and off all day (!) - got into a right mess with the ini file - think my regular reboot came right in the middle of editing - then I was using wordpad which injected all sorts of other stuff. Luckily the new restore got me back to a stable clean position and all is now well.
my feeds are at https://pachube.com/feeds/13194 - not as impressive as your. Power 2 is because I have only recently discovered the current cost bugs which gives false 144watt readings when the power on ch 1 goes above 3kw !! swmbo wasn't impressed at the idea of triggering a klaxon when ch 2 went high!
Kim
22 December, 2011 - 19:13
#16
Thanks G7PKF - that worked.
Thanks G7PKF - that worked. I had already killed some of the buttons. It seems that RF 5,6,7 Sensors 1-4 are the ones (an older version
of the chip?). Getting rid of button 0 took longer - in the end I killed them off one at a time until I found the culprit - page 4 the 1wire1
slider. So now no more spare messages - just heartbeat and proper messages.
Kim (G3YGA)
23 December, 2011 - 21:39
#17
sorry?????
Can you elaborate on the current cost bugs which gives false 144watt readings when the power on ch 1 goes above 3kw !
My SWMBO is now getting really annoyed as i have started using mote so i can now switch lights heating and anything else connected to HAH on/off remotely.
so when she leaves the outside lights on i switch them off!! and i am 100+ miles away!! i do have a dvr and 6 cameras around house so i can also see when shes not home, and i have set heating to switch off/into frost protect mode when alarm is set, and alarm and boiler are monitered by HAH....My SWMBO is really starting to hate me and moan A LOT!!!
23 December, 2011 - 23:14
#19
100+ miles away isn't far enough
Especially if you call home to complain about the '15 minute shower'. Trust me on this!
Derek.
24 December, 2011 - 08:56
#20
Current Cost 144 watts bug
Staring at the data flowing on xfx viewer - as you do - I could see 144 appearing on channel 2 and 3. I thought it might be a low battery causing the channel indicator to be incorrect. Googling "current cost 144 watts" gives the answer - though you have to look at the cache version on the right to see the main reply in the second heading.
To simulate it you can repeatedly turn the kettle on and off.
Also available on my feed https://pachube.com/feeds/13194 where you can see "power 2" triggering when 'power" goes above approx 3kw.
More detail, on why, is available from halfway down this aussie blog http://blog.digivation.com.au/category/tag/currentcost. It may not apply to all devices I suppose.
Can I suggest a community project where we run around the house turning various appliances on and off to establish the exact power trigger point. SWMBO's will no doubt join in this worthy activity over the Xmas period!
Text of cached original article reproduced below:
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This article applies to the following brands and models:
Current Cost : Classic and Envi
Watts Clever : STC-4002 \ Jaycar MS6155
This bug related to the above mentioned Current Cost and Watts Clever products, and relates to incorrect values being recorded and displayed by the device. We have termed this bug the "144 Bug", however it will result in an incorrect value of 144 being added to phases (channels) 2 and 3 which means the error is 288 watts over-stated, this applies to both single and three phase installations.
The errors occurs when the actual wattage used is over 3KWatts, when this condition is true then an incorrect value of 144 watts is shown on channels 1 and 2 of the data store and as a result on the classic model represented on the screen, on the ENVI the manufacturers have attempted to fix the bug by not adding the error into the LCD display. However on all brand and models the history will be incorrect for all occurrences where Energy Now is greater than (about) 3kw. This is an issue that is not resolved true software with any reasonable accuracy, we have sighted a claim by Watts Clever that a certain software product will resolve this issue in relation to the history data, however we dispute that the history can be accurately corrected)
While this is a serious issue in relation to the accuracy, and could be resolved by the manufacturer, it has existed over two model generations so the bug is unlikely to be resolved in the near future. I did attempt to get a response from Current Cost about 4 months ago however, emails have remained unanswered.
1 January, 2012 - 18:38
#21
Embedded xAP Flash
Oooh .. nicely done Brett... I feel strangely elated that xAPFlash got embedded status... and because HAH is easily firmware updateable (even easier if there was an update me button on the firmware page ;-) then I don't have the typical worries about any updates.
Using the default generated XML my relay control isn't actually working but I'll suss that soon - no doubt it's my instance, sub address or UID changes from defaults as I don't expect the xap config.Xml default file is rebuilt with such changes included.
Just re a couple of previous comments...
Error messages... XAP Flash does display some at startup should it finds something awry with the XML but I know it's not very thorough and can often just not launch when the config is not to it's taste. It's on the list but not a high priority.
If you have xAP devices configured that are not present at startup xAP Flash will try repeatedly to retrieve their status , it does back off over time though, reducing queries to about once every 10 mins IIRC. The xAP button will show a count of how many devices are not found, which will reduce to 0 and then display 'xAP' once all are found. Clicking this button displays a list of any missing devices.
K
18 January, 2012 - 17:25
#23
config.xml
Hi Brett, Kevin
Finally got around to getting my xAPFlash config loaded, everything went pretty smoothly.
I'm about to buy a couple more and will therefor have about 3 around the house plus obviously a few more testing and PC based instances.
When I tried to change the config file and use it to override a remotely located config file, I couldn't.
It says "Read-Only file system". Wouldn't it make more sense to have the config.xml file located somewhere where it was possible to change it?
I want to be able to change all jogglers through one xapconfig.xml and many config.xmls with overrides.
Is this possible?
Cheers
Gary
20 January, 2012 - 12:05
#24
Common xapconfig.xml
Hi Gary
You can set the location for a common xapconfig.xml, but each config.xml should be unique to a particular PC/Joggler/Phone/woteva !!!!
My problem is in setting up the common location - the scenario being.....
HAHHub on 192.168.1.nn acting as iServer (working fine.....), with a common xapconfig.xml in the /tmp folder
Joggler on 192.168.1.jj with its own config.xml pointing to a local xapconfig.xml......works fine!!!
If I try and change <configfilelocation>local</configfilelocation>
to say <configfilelocation>192.168.1.nn/tmp/</configfilelocation>
it all goes wrong!!!
Any ideas?
EJ
20 January, 2012 - 12:38
#25
External xAP sources
Hi Brett
Brilliant work...I'm begining to get a funtional Joggler/HAH combo and even SWMBO was impressed!!!
However... I've got a Weather Station (W1080) posting xAP temp and barro readings and I'd like to integrate them into the xapconfig.xml.....had a go, but I'm missing something....
I can post the temp (for eg) to Pachube using....
ID TAG Tag XAP Source xAP Class xAP Section key
n Outside sanday.cumulus.ASROCK weather.report weather.report TempC WORKS FINE
But when I put it inti xapconfig.xml using.....
<style>outside-temp-icon.png</style>
<xAP> <!-- DOESN'T WORK........ -->
<schema>weather-report</schema>
<uid>FF437500</uid>
<source>sanday.cumulus.ASROCK:TempC</source>
</xAP>
Can you assist, please?
EJ
21 January, 2012 - 12:30
#27
Thanks for that...
Hi Brett
I'll take your advice and post on the automatedhome forum for the weather Station stuff....
However, on the configfile location.....
Coming at this from a DOS/Windows standpoint - I've always been able to drop in the 4field ID as if it were an URL.... so how do I give my HAHHub an URL, so I can access it from the Joggler for the common configfile? I've read the docs referenced, but its not there. I've given the HAHHub an unique instance, is that it?
Sorry to be a pain - but I've got multiple Jogglers and I'd really like to be able to update them from my 'always on' HAHHub!
Cheers.....and your pint is still here, waiting!
EJ
21 January, 2012 - 13:59
#28
Many Thanks..
Hi Brett
Part 1 - That's solved the first part - I used the 'generic' xAP and it's all working fine...
Part 2 - no further...
NEW Part.... is source=dbzoo.livebox.CurrentCost:ch.total available as an xAP instance?...it appears to be giving the same data as ch.1 (should be sum of ch.1 + ch.2 + ch.3)!
Cheers...
EJ
21 January, 2012 - 14:02
#29
Panic over - found it!!!
Sorry Brett...I'm an idiot...
The UID has to change as well.......so that's PART 3 solved as well....
Cheers
EJ
23 January, 2012 - 10:40
#30
Brett,What about one of those
Brett,
What about one of those fancy links you can do in Linux?
Couldn't we have a linked file there in the read only bit pointing to the read/write location?
Hey this looks great.
I get somewhere - put xAPFLASH.swf into /etc/www - pictures all load but no action. Did change ip address to iserver location
Looking at iserver I have two entries - one from another browser tab, which is running
The second entry shows "(null)" in the source, no TX and 1 RX.
So what am I missing I wonder.
Regards
Kim
p.s. both iserver entries run from the same pc - so I don't think it is that end.