Thinking of fabbing JeeNode's
10 July, 2011 - 17:16
I've been chatting with Derek and we think we can FAB a jeenode for less money than you can buy them from the Jeenode shop. As all the designs are opensource we are allowed to do this.
Tentatively we are thinking we can ship them for about 15 GBP ea inc postage withing the UK. Which is about a 3.50 GBP discount on the cost from the JeeNode shop.
At that price its equivalent to the jeeNode shop selling you 4 and giving you 1 for free!
So we can size up the initial run we where wondering how many folks would be interested?
Either way we are going to do a small initial run for our own usage as HAH remote sensor units.
Brett
10 July, 2011 - 20:49
#2
Me too
I would certainly take at least one to play with initially. Thanks
10 July, 2011 - 22:01
#3
Me also
I'll take at least a couple. Thanks
11 July, 2011 - 08:58
#4
I love the sound of these...but...
I think I just need to understand a little more about what I can do with them. Could I use one to transmit IR for example?
I'm still trying to think of other things I can do with my little CC breakout boards, at the moment I'm only using one as a roving light switch.
Also an issue for me is having to go through the process of programming for them.
While I love learning LUA, I am finding it time consuming and I don't think I'm making a very good job of it.
What I would prefer to do is pay a little more for a prebuilt module like an light sensor or a motion detector.
This module could then also include an applet to enable it's functionality(it may of course require a little tweaking for my setup).
Is this something that could be done? I think this would open up the HAH to those a little less technical.
This would also need the WebGui to be expandable I guess...maybe you guys don't want to go down that road?
12 July, 2011 - 13:02
#5
JeeNode
I'd have one, something else to play with.
4 October, 2011 - 15:17
#6
Are they available?
Hi Brett
Have you got any further with fabbing the Jeenode? Are thay available yet? Can't see them in the Shop so I presume they're coming 'real soon now'?
If you need more impetus - please put me down for 3, for now.... if my project works out i'll want more....
Thanks in advance
EJ
4 October, 2011 - 17:02
#7
Nearly ready ...
I've been working to source parts for the first run of these. PCBs are in and the first samples built. RFM12B modules are in too.
Brett has worked hard to make the HAH software support for these as seamless as is possible.
Our initial run of PCBs was limited to 12parts - I hope to have something up on the shop soon.
Then, we will get a bigger run sorted out. The price will be very competative.
The 'attach' cable for these is already on the shop. You probably have found this link already, but here is the wiki support page for the units ... http://www.dbzoo.com/livebox/hah_jeenode
Derek.
5 October, 2011 - 15:18
#8
Let me know
Thanks for the update, Derek.... it's great to hear that things are progressing.
Can you give us a 'Heads Up' when you put the kits into the shop - I'd hate to miss the opportunity to get my hot sweatys on a couple....
Cheers and hope to hear from you soon...
EJ
14 October, 2011 - 07:36
#10
RoomNodes in beta testing
The RoomNodes are out with a couple of folks to see how things went. We've found (and fixed) a few issues and misunderstandings. The JeeNode Wiki page is being filled out with info as we go along. So, a little behind 'hoped for' schedule but nothing too bad.
The final step is to properly document the way to hookup the Airwick PIR. Note that Airwick seem to have stopped making the PIR based units and have replaced them with an 'odour detect' unit. You might pick up some old stock being sold off cheaply (I certainly did) ... and of course, eBay still have them.
Derek.
14 October, 2011 - 10:47
#11
Real soon then?
Hi Derek
Thanks for all the work you and the team are putting into these projects.... HAH rocks!!
I can't wait to get my hands on a couple of JeeNodes, and I'm hunkering down and reading all the available info etc on them.... looks like there'll still be a chunk of user intervention tho'.... oh well! more late nights trying to learn another language, I suppose...
I tried my local Tesco's but they'd sold out days before, so I missed the cheap Airwick stuff... and the products on eBay are still showing the full retail - bugger!!! Do you have any spare, or know where a stock of them might still be available (that's the Scot in me - always keen for a bargain!)
Can you give us a bit of a warning as to when the kits might be available in the 'Shop'? I'd hate to miss out .....
Again, thanks for all your efforts..we really appreciate it (on behalf of the HAH community).
EJ
14 October, 2011 - 11:33
#12
Shop around
I wandered around some 'pound shop' style places (you won't find these in actual Pound Shops) but discount stores. Best I saw was at a B&M store - £2.99 - didn't get to buy them out as SWMBO was there too! Tesco did reduce them to £1.50 - but all gone now.
Yes, some Lua scripting is needed to do anything worthwhile with the values from all those new endpoints. We will, over time, have an increasing number of examples. The annoying thing is that it takes me an hour to write a sad piece of Lua that Brett could knock out (properly) in two mins.
It will take a little while before the PCBs hit the shop. I need to do one more 'trial revision', adding a few improvements, before we can get a 'big' run done. Turnaround time from the Chinese fab shop isn't terribly fast.
Cheers,
Derek.
15 October, 2011 - 10:15
#13
B&M is the place to go
I got three more from B&M this morning, they had plenty in. I could perhaps get some for anyone who wants them. (Am I going to regret saying that?!)
15 October, 2011 - 17:34
#14
Yes Please!
Hi Boxing! (BO just doesn't sound right!!!)
Can you put me down for 3 please - what about shipping - do you PayPal?
Let me know....ta!
EJ
15 October, 2011 - 21:17
#15
Go long on Airwicks
My test Airwick based Roomnode is working well with my HAH. I've written up some details of howto prep & wire the Airwick to a RoomNode board.
http://www.dbzoo.com/livebox/hah_jeenode?&#airwick_roomnode
Derek.
15 October, 2011 - 22:09
#16
JeeNode Air Freshners
HI EJ,
Yea I know, BO just doesn't work!
I'll send you my paypal e-mail address, I'll have to get the postage cost from the post office, based on sending ebay stuff I'd guess £3-£5, but I'll let you know.
Karl
14 December, 2011 - 12:30
#17
Any news on the Jeenodes?
I think this will be great for outside temp and dawn/dusk detection.
I am gradually replacing my x-10 HA with HAH and love the wireless element. Full CH control here we come.
14 December, 2011 - 12:48
#18
Still playing
Well, let's be clear on our nomenclature. Work is ongoing to see if a HAHnode can be offered - JeeNodes come from JeeLabs!
There are a couple of beta testers on the go. The xAP-Serial connector firmware, together with Bretts Lua code that exposes the BSC endpoints for the LDR/PIR/DS18B20 is rock solid.
Further, Brett just added support for a 2nd DS18B20, so each Airwick can now take a couple of readings.
It's really a logistics thing to get a decent offering available at a very competative price.
All in the fullness of time.
14 December, 2011 - 13:21
#19
I take your point
about nomenclature, but I was following the thread title.
I guess that means not before Christmas then. So, I think I will get started with the more expensive (and only available) option. Unless of course you need another beta tester. I am able to help with documentation.
Alan
27 March, 2012 - 15:24
#20
Hi Derek,Any new update if or
Hi Derek,
Any new update if or when these will be available?
15 April, 2012 - 08:27
#21
HAHnode status
Hello Derek, Brett,
If you could give us a fresh update on subject ;) ?
Kind regards,
Aivo
18 April, 2012 - 22:06
#22
Testing, testing, testing
I wouldn't want you to thiink that things are not progressing with the HAHNode, the Jeenode derivative.
Derek has blessed me and another with a bit of testing which has been going well.
I have posted some flickr photo sets which illustrate the progress being made:-
What I think of as the HAHNode prototype -
http://www.flickr.com/photos/netcompsys/sets/72157629392573973/
Putting an HAHNode into an Airwick
http://www.flickr.com/photos/netcompsys/sets/72157629453603127/
And more recently, the pre-production version
http://www.flickr.com/photos/netcompsys/sets/72157629483719430/ (must add an as built photo...)
I have tried to give meaningful captions and comments to the photos and will be using them to update the wiki
Currently I am running a network of a single HAHCentral talking to the HAH Livebox on one side and 4 wireless 'roomnodes' on the other, two of which are HAHNodes and one of these is in a repurposed Airwick.
The problems I had experienced earlier seem to have gone away now that we have some extra logging facilities (!) and the setup has been running reliably, unattended, for a couple of weeks.
I have passed some comments on to derek and hopefully he will incorporate them into the production pcb.
You might regard this post as a bit of a tease, and in some ways it is, but do remember that derek and brett do this in their spare time...
kevint
edit - corrected 3rd link above
20 April, 2012 - 19:50
#23
Lodging my interest
Derek/Brett,
Please add me in for 1*HAH-C and 2*HAH-N when you are ready.
ps: whats their power lifespan using your reference sketches - have you been able to test?
(what power source testing with?) - The eneloop XX's seem great and I am sure cost effective over say 12months.
20 April, 2012 - 20:45
#24
Spoilers
Well, it has taken me sooo long to get this thing moving. Kevint and his nice (spoiler :-) photos did kinda make me think about getting back to it.
I've concentrated pretty much exclusively on the 'airwick enclosure' idea. This is powered by 3xAA cells. After about six months of operation, I still have no 'low battery' signal from my soaktest unit.
Of course, the basenode is powered via the 'attach cable' to the HAH, so that doesn't feature in any 'power use' testing.
The good news is that kevint has been testing with not only multiple nodes, but a hugely busy xAP bus in his environment.
Anyway, the next order is for 100off the HAHnode PCBs & there are sufficient other parts in store to populate most all of these.
Derek.
2 May, 2012 - 13:31
#25
Pictures here of boards being
Pictures here of boards being populated, i found the wiki pretty easy to follow :)
http://www.packetradio.co.uk/gallery/index.php/HAH?page=6
Dean
14 May, 2012 - 21:49
#26
PCBs arrive
So there are now a load of the V1.3 HAHnode PCBs stored in my basement. As soon as I get home & have time to check one of these out, the HAHnode offering will (finally) go onto the Shop.
It's been a while ... but in the interim, the HAH support framework for these has been thoroughly proven.
Derek.
14 May, 2012 - 22:42
#27
Come on Derek you know it makes sense.
I can confirm jeenode/wireless is the way forward.
how much are they going to be? go on teease us a little longer.
Dean
24 May, 2012 - 21:03
#29
Waiting for the postman then...
Waiting for the postman then...;)
--andy
Put me down for 2, i really think they are expensive for functionality.
but hey ill give 2 a go if they are at a reasonable price